Any Hole's a Gohl
20051214
It would be quite easy to walk away from the current saga making peace signs, smoking fat Cubans and claiming overall victory. It'd also be like stealing sugary treats from a small infant to sink the boot in and go to town on Professional Sleazebag Nigel, even though he has consistently proven over the last 48 hours that he really is a misogynistic A-Grade Cockhead of the highest calibre. What, with the backpedalling, the threatening, the comments stooging, the alleged "pretending I've got heaps of friends by making heaps of posts under different names in the comments" and the general fuckwitedness of his conduct both on and off the internet. But you know me, I'm not that much of a bastard. Besides, I really haven't had to do much more than copy a few emails and let Nigel slowly hang himself in the corner, so it doesn't feel like I've put in sufficient effort to triumph over his fuckwittedness just yet. Anyway, let's recap the Blog Soap Opera so far:
It's really started to become a lot bigger than I expected. On Sunday night I was fully prepared to leave it at email 3# and walk away. Then his angry response came through, and it went from there.
I'd like to share with you some of the gems from the previous post's comments. Observe:
Well "Emma", if being conclusively rolled makes him 100% ahead in the debating stakes, then I suppose I am a loser. And simply having written a book doesn't make him special - especially not seeing as he published it himself.
And Nigel is definitely not smart enough to get scant publicity from a small independent weblog, oh no.
Isn't it obvous? Oh look, another comment!
His book doesn't turn into a love story. He pounds the chick for a few years then they break up. He doesn't mention that bit in the book.
And why would I be jealous of a bloke who thinks it's ok to pretend to be a sportsman with the sole aim of forcing his penis into some unwitting woman's vagina?
I had a strong feeling that I'd bewildered him completely here. And book sales? Nobody who reads my site would buy your shitty book in their right mind, 1. Because it's shit, and 2. because the only place of purchase is from your website, which doesn't have 128-bit secure SSL encryption for the transfer of credit card information. Beware!
Nigel's house must get very hectic at showertime.
Trying to help me get more action? Last time I checked, he wanted to get his imaginary friends to kick my head in the next time I go out. He didn't mention anything about helping me "cop more carpet".
Which "manly attribute" did you like the most? Please share it with the rest of the house.
I'd had a lot of fun, being relayed the comments as they came to hand via sms at work. Then after I called the shenanigan and put the IP addresses in the body of the comment text, this was posted:
Never to be outdone, Nigel's household started again:
Given that there's a strong chance he's solely responsible for this stooging of comment threads on the topic, the very credibility of the content on his own site has to be called into question. A commenter on TSSH noted that all of the testimonials, reader feedback, and questions from the floor that form the basis for his infrequent monthly column are now looking more and more like complete horseshit. Also add to that the fact that every single one of these examples seems to have the same syntax markers, grammatical choice and lexical variety. Blend these for a moment and you've got some primary evidence that Nigel does in fact have no friends. There's also grounds to call shenanigans as to the accuracy of the book, and every other thing he's published on the web and elsewhere given such strong evidence.
I feel that Nigel lives a strange duplicity in his everyday life. On the one hand, he seems like a hard working man who wants to earn a living in Property Finance; but on the other, he refuses to acknowledge that his book, published work and atrocious attitude towards women and sexuality which he clings to so vociferously will always get in the way of achieving success in his day job. Basically, it sounds like he wrote it, didn't think it through, and now it's haunting him.
I'm not really that much of a heartless bastard, really. I'm prepared to offer Nigel a few concessions, maybe even a deal. If he starts to acknowledge that publishing the book wasn't such a great idea, starts treating women with respect, pulps the remaining copies, gets rid of his website, ditches the silly moniker and abandons his futile clutch to such persuasive arguments as "you're just critical of me because you're a virgin" and "you're jealous of a man who shags so you criticise" then I might consider him rehabilitated and remove the reference to his full name from the original post.
At the end of the day, I don't feel empathy for Nigel. I feel pity. The guy is 30, and still acting like most of the jerkoffs I left behind in year 8.
To be honest, I'm loath to change any of my content purely as a matter of principle. It's highly unlikely that Nigel will ever admit that his ideology is inherently flawed, even with the fact that it's easy to counter and disprove. Besides, shallow pick-up techniques written by misogynist fuckheads aren't necessary to get sex - anybody is able to walk into a pub and start approaching people for a root. Eventually you'll meet someone who's up for it.
In the current climate of testosterone-fuelled machoism, increased date-rape incidences, growing body image confidence issues, eating disorders and a whole swathe of other problems facing young people, there is no useful place for the ideas and theories of Nigel Gohl. Contrary to what he may think, the positive role models that our society needs don't include men whose claim to fame includes cheating on his girlfriend with a "black chick" thusly described: "...her black mouth strok(ing) me back and forward result(ing) in me nearly bringing the evening to a premature end... (because of) the whole 'black on white' thing." (Around the World... N Gohl 2004 pg 143).
He's being a slippery character who fails to show any sign of remorse or even responsibility for his work. He's continuing to defend the book, his "Theorem 54" and "System One" pick up techniques, his conduct towards women and some of the potentially illegal acts he may have committed overseas, even when he's been catergorically rolled again and again. And that's not even beginning to address the disgusting self-appointed machoistic ideology that he wraps himself in and attempts to offload onto other young men.
The greater example of sadness was when Nigel felt the need to stooge my comments while I was at work yesterday. And what a stooging it was. First, he felt the need to pretend to be a supportive reader. Then he decided to do it again, and again, until there were twenty comments, all following the same language pattern and mysteriously, all from the same IP address traced to Glen Waverley in Melbourne, Victoria - also the same suburb that Nigel happens to live in. This IP address is consistent with a log kept of same in my referrer - and funnily enough, the timecode on each of his emails to me is always within 5 minutes of the same IP address creating a page imprint of this blog.
One can speculate here, but I think it points to one thing - Nigel lives with 30 other people sympathetic to his cause, and they all use one internet connection. A commenter on TSSH called it The "Nigeldome".
But why does he feel the need to continue with the bullshit? Does he get off thinking that his website is actually "helping blokes pull hot chix"? Does he seriously think that there is a place for such superficiality, such sexist attitudes in today's society? The pinnacle of sadness is the answer to that question. Quite frankly, anyone who is prepared to publicly go on the record and make such comments as he has seems a bit beyond redemption, logical understanding and any notion of commonsense. As 1.0 said, Nigel is a living embarassment to males everywhere.
Please keep sending in your mentions and sightings of the issue via email and in the comments. More and more blogs seem to be picking this up, and it's quite the phenomenon.
It's been quite possibly the most fun, most entertaining event for me in the blogosphere. May the joy continue until someone has their eye out.
- Caz from The Spin Starts Here tears him and his work to shreds!
- I post an unabridged copy of our email conversation with editorial comment!
- Flute, Blog Herald and others get on board!
- Everybody laughs at Nigel's expense!
It's really started to become a lot bigger than I expected. On Sunday night I was fully prepared to leave it at email 3# and walk away. Then his angry response came through, and it went from there.
I'd like to share with you some of the gems from the previous post's comments. Observe:
Hang on a second. Haven't we seen that IP address before? Oh wait, there's another:
IP: 60.224.179.87
AFE, if seems like you are criticising a guy for having the balls to do something different while having a stack of fun along the way!
What is it that this guy has done that is so wrong?
He's travelled the world, had a great time and now he's helping guy's learn how to do similar? Sounds pretty good to me.
Thanks to you my curiosity needs to be satisfied so I am going to have to buy a copy of his book!
Charles | 12.14.05 - 2:11 pm |
IP: 60.224.179.87
Agent Fare Evader,
After reading you blog it is 100% clear to me that Nigel is clearly ahead in this so called debate. You really do sound like some kind of jealous loser.
By the way, did you have his permission to publish these personal emails on your blog?
It sounds like you can not handle a simple one on one conversation with this guy and need to bring in you deluded friends to support your bullshit......who cares anyway?
He's written a book, which appears to be quite interesting, and in your hatred of him you are giving him all of this extra publicity.
Have you ever thought that this might have been his original stratgegy?
Talk about running rings around you!
Emma | 12.14.05 - 2:16 pm | #
Well "Emma", if being conclusively rolled makes him 100% ahead in the debating stakes, then I suppose I am a loser. And simply having written a book doesn't make him special - especially not seeing as he published it himself.
And Nigel is definitely not smart enough to get scant publicity from a small independent weblog, oh no.
IP: 60.224.179.87
Why do you think this guy has no respect for women?
From reading his website it sounds as if he is a massive fan of women and they are of him.
Sounds as if you're jealous?
peter | 12.14.05 - 2:21 pm |
Isn't it obvous? Oh look, another comment!
IP: 60.224.179.87
Hi everyone!
Just wanted to let you know that I have known Nigel for nearly 10 years and this misrepresentation of him is unfair and so far from the truth it is bewildering.
Over the years me and my boyfriend have been introduced to a number of his flings and also one his serious girlfriends and the respect he has shown to all of them has been first class. They way he met them and perhaps picked them up is always a fascinating tale, but that's why these girls are attracted to him. He's Nige 54 and he is larger than life!
Sure, when me and some of my girlfriends first read his book we were a little surprised but hey, that's Nige 54. And let's not forget the love story 'Around The World In 80 Babes!' turns into.
It's a shame you choose to criticise him in the way you do......oh well, as other people have already said, the word 'jealously' is speaking loud and clear here.
Jennifer
jennifer | 12.14.05 - 2:29 pm | #
His book doesn't turn into a love story. He pounds the chick for a few years then they break up. He doesn't mention that bit in the book.
And why would I be jealous of a bloke who thinks it's ok to pretend to be a sportsman with the sole aim of forcing his penis into some unwitting woman's vagina?
IP: 60.224.179.87
I am sure Nige is loving this extra publicity and book sales.
HA! He has played you like a cheap violin.
Agent Fare Evader, you are showing wisdom very short of your twenty years - at least you sound intelligent through the use of a thesaurus.
Brad | 12.14.05 - 2:45 pm |
I had a strong feeling that I'd bewildered him completely here. And book sales? Nobody who reads my site would buy your shitty book in their right mind, 1. Because it's shit, and 2. because the only place of purchase is from your website, which doesn't have 128-bit secure SSL encryption for the transfer of credit card information. Beware!
IP: 60.224.179.87Getting personal? The guy wrote a book about how enjoys being a professional sleazebag. Then he accused me of being a 'jealous virgin' because I took his misogyny to task. Don't talk to me about getting personal, "Susan".
Hey,
I am also a long time friend of Nige and have just been told about this blog.
You guys criticising him have no idea how much Nige would be LOVING all of you spending your time debating his merits.
HA, HA, HA.
A word of warning though - just be very careful AFE because he does know ALOT of people and if you get too personal...well yeah...it might get ugly.
Don't worry though, Nige would be finding this more entertaining than anything else.
Susan
Susan | 12.14.05 - 3:12 pm |
IP: 60.224.179.87
Nige 54 is the sexiest man I have ever slept with and he treated me like an absolute princess......that was after he picked me up with the most orginal routine I have ever heard!
But the way many of you are portraying him is just wrong.
Take it from me, I've slept with him, I've dated him and he is, as he said in the emails you published, outstanding in every way.
Jane | 12.14.05 - 3:18 pm |
Nigel's house must get very hectic at showertime.
IP: 60.224.179.87Why must I watch my back, "Mick?" Because Nigel and his imaginary friends might come around to beat me up? I'll have to pretend to be injured, in any case.
Who are all of these losers giving Nige crap?
He is the ultimate man and every time I have seen him with women, they absolutely love him.
Agent Fare Evader, you are a deluded loser and now that I have seen your photo on your blog, you better watch your back.
Mick | 12.14.05 - 3:21 pm |
IP 60.224.179.87"VINCE", the token ethnic imaginary friend of Nigel Gohl, pulling the tried and trusted 'Italian - must be Mafioso' connection. Mamma mia!
AFE, can I expand on Mick's comments by saying that we all live in Melbourne and yes, now we know what you look like.
While we are certain Nige is enjoying this attention, we are not happy with the things you have said about him.
For you sake, I hope we do not run into you in any one of Melbourne's bars, clubs or establishments.
We beat the shit out of people like you for fun.
VINCE | 12.14.05 - 3:31 pm |
IP: 60.224.179.87Gee, the posts are only 20 minutes apart now. Everyone else must be in the bath round at Nigel's house.
Did anyone see Nige 54's appearance on SUNRISE on Melbourne Cup day?
He came across as a very well presented, entertaining and knowledge guy in relation to dating and picking up at the Melbourne Cup.
To me that is who the real Nige 54 is and therefore the complete opposite of the person you are describing here.
I think you may be way off, Agent Fare Evader.
John | 12.14.05 - 3:58 pm |
IP: 60.224.179.87Actually 'Andrew', we do get laid. And we do it honestly by making our intentions clear and having respect for the people we have sex with.
What is wrong with you guys?
Don't you ever get laid???
Andrew | 12.14.05 - 4:06 pm |
IP: 60.224.179.87 I have also been referred to this blog and Agent Fare Evader, I have no idea who you are, but why criticise a guy who is trying to help you get more action? You dickhead. Isaac | 12.14.05 - 4:09 pm |
Trying to help me get more action? Last time I checked, he wanted to get his imaginary friends to kick my head in the next time I go out. He didn't mention anything about helping me "cop more carpet".
Indeed, so are STI's. Ask Nigel, I'm sure he'll have some stories.
IP: 60.224.179.87
Nige would be loving this.
AFE, you are a 20 year old wuss bag. Seriously, you're still a virgin aren't you?
Jealously is a curse.
Karl | 12.14.05 - 4:10 pm |
IP: 60.224.179.87
I dated Nige for three months back in 2003 before I went overseas.
The time we spent together was magnificent and I wish more guys had his confidence, sense of humour and manly attributes.
I agree with some of the other writers here - Nige would be finding all of this attention hysterical.
Katie
Katie | 12.14.05 - 5:41 pm |
Which "manly attribute" did you like the most? Please share it with the rest of the house.
Smart, of course. Seeing as most of the traffic to his site is now people who are mocking the shit out of him. Very smart.
IP: 60.224.179.87
Flashman,
I think you may find that he's outwitted you aswell.
I heard that he is currently in Sydney working on a new book deal and this whole thing is about getting more hits for his website and extra publicity on the web.
Very smart indeeed.
Russell | 12.14.05 - 7:12 pm |
IP: 60.224.179.87Well, Kicker, I heard he was spending his whole day sitting in front of the computer stooging my comments with imaginary friends because he'd been well and truly rolled.
I actually heard he was in London doing another Contiki tour - what a legend!
Kicker | 12.14.05 - 7:15 pm |
I'd had a lot of fun, being relayed the comments as they came to hand via sms at work. Then after I called the shenanigan and put the IP addresses in the body of the comment text, this was posted:
60.224.179.87Then this one...
So now he's got you chasing IP addresses???
You're dead right - it has been a very funny day.
What name this time? | 12.14.05 - 7:30 pm |
Now it had just gone from the amusing, through ridiculous to the land of Really Fucking Sad.
60.224.179.87
So this is how bloggers like AFE spend their days.
WOW, how can we become like him?
Does anyone have any tips how we can all be like AFE?
Any suggestions?
We are out of names! | 12.14.05 - 7:33 pm |
Never to be outdone, Nigel's household started again:
IP: 60.224.179.87Still not content with being totally steamrolled, he felt the need to again provide support for his own comments:
Ok, these are my Top 5 ways to be like AFE:
v) Think that by using big words and saying alot of them you are intelligent
iv) Post photos of your ugly friends and ordinary looking chicks on your blog......basically be socially retarded except when behind a computer.
iii) Allow others to use you for publicity when you think you are trashing them
ii) Be nice to girls and act as their friends at all times. In other words - get zero action.
i) Think that everything you are doing is the most important thing in the world and that the people concerned actually care.
How's that for starters?
Gay Mike | 12.14.05 - 7:40 pm |
IP: 60.224.179.87
Now that is quite a list!
I really don't know if I have the skills to be such a pathetic loser.
But thanks anyway and I'll give it a go!
We are out of names! | 12.14.05 - 7:41 pm |
IP: 60.224.179.87I really like the way that he persists in claiming the whole thing as a setup of his own engineering. Yep, he made me post the emails on the web, he stooged his own support in my comments all because my readership of 746 people yesterday will really be interested in buying his soggy paperback tripe. You know, Nigel is such a suave, savvy marketing guru. I was totally convinced!
AFE,
Don't tell me Nige has got you spitting out your resume/daily routine again so you can try and prove that you are more than just a one dimensional wanker?
How many times are you going to fall for it and HOW insecure are you?
Man, this is hilarious.
Maybe we can think of one more | 12.14.05 - 7:46 pm |
IP: 60.224.179.87For once, the manchild speaks some truth.
Quick - AFE is telling everyone what he did today!
QUICK, read his blog!
AFE is just so cool!!!
Hang on, we better change computers. Gotta be wary of that IP address.
We love AFE | 12.14.05 - 7:49 pm |
Given that there's a strong chance he's solely responsible for this stooging of comment threads on the topic, the very credibility of the content on his own site has to be called into question. A commenter on TSSH noted that all of the testimonials, reader feedback, and questions from the floor that form the basis for his infrequent monthly column are now looking more and more like complete horseshit. Also add to that the fact that every single one of these examples seems to have the same syntax markers, grammatical choice and lexical variety. Blend these for a moment and you've got some primary evidence that Nigel does in fact have no friends. There's also grounds to call shenanigans as to the accuracy of the book, and every other thing he's published on the web and elsewhere given such strong evidence.
I feel that Nigel lives a strange duplicity in his everyday life. On the one hand, he seems like a hard working man who wants to earn a living in Property Finance; but on the other, he refuses to acknowledge that his book, published work and atrocious attitude towards women and sexuality which he clings to so vociferously will always get in the way of achieving success in his day job. Basically, it sounds like he wrote it, didn't think it through, and now it's haunting him.
I'm not really that much of a heartless bastard, really. I'm prepared to offer Nigel a few concessions, maybe even a deal. If he starts to acknowledge that publishing the book wasn't such a great idea, starts treating women with respect, pulps the remaining copies, gets rid of his website, ditches the silly moniker and abandons his futile clutch to such persuasive arguments as "you're just critical of me because you're a virgin" and "you're jealous of a man who shags so you criticise" then I might consider him rehabilitated and remove the reference to his full name from the original post.
At the end of the day, I don't feel empathy for Nigel. I feel pity. The guy is 30, and still acting like most of the jerkoffs I left behind in year 8.
To be honest, I'm loath to change any of my content purely as a matter of principle. It's highly unlikely that Nigel will ever admit that his ideology is inherently flawed, even with the fact that it's easy to counter and disprove. Besides, shallow pick-up techniques written by misogynist fuckheads aren't necessary to get sex - anybody is able to walk into a pub and start approaching people for a root. Eventually you'll meet someone who's up for it.
In the current climate of testosterone-fuelled machoism, increased date-rape incidences, growing body image confidence issues, eating disorders and a whole swathe of other problems facing young people, there is no useful place for the ideas and theories of Nigel Gohl. Contrary to what he may think, the positive role models that our society needs don't include men whose claim to fame includes cheating on his girlfriend with a "black chick" thusly described: "...her black mouth strok(ing) me back and forward result(ing) in me nearly bringing the evening to a premature end... (because of) the whole 'black on white' thing." (Around the World... N Gohl 2004 pg 143).
He's being a slippery character who fails to show any sign of remorse or even responsibility for his work. He's continuing to defend the book, his "Theorem 54" and "System One" pick up techniques, his conduct towards women and some of the potentially illegal acts he may have committed overseas, even when he's been catergorically rolled again and again. And that's not even beginning to address the disgusting self-appointed machoistic ideology that he wraps himself in and attempts to offload onto other young men.
The greater example of sadness was when Nigel felt the need to stooge my comments while I was at work yesterday. And what a stooging it was. First, he felt the need to pretend to be a supportive reader. Then he decided to do it again, and again, until there were twenty comments, all following the same language pattern and mysteriously, all from the same IP address traced to Glen Waverley in Melbourne, Victoria - also the same suburb that Nigel happens to live in. This IP address is consistent with a log kept of same in my referrer - and funnily enough, the timecode on each of his emails to me is always within 5 minutes of the same IP address creating a page imprint of this blog.
One can speculate here, but I think it points to one thing - Nigel lives with 30 other people sympathetic to his cause, and they all use one internet connection. A commenter on TSSH called it The "Nigeldome".
But why does he feel the need to continue with the bullshit? Does he get off thinking that his website is actually "helping blokes pull hot chix"? Does he seriously think that there is a place for such superficiality, such sexist attitudes in today's society? The pinnacle of sadness is the answer to that question. Quite frankly, anyone who is prepared to publicly go on the record and make such comments as he has seems a bit beyond redemption, logical understanding and any notion of commonsense. As 1.0 said, Nigel is a living embarassment to males everywhere.
Please keep sending in your mentions and sightings of the issue via email and in the comments. More and more blogs seem to be picking this up, and it's quite the phenomenon.
It's been quite possibly the most fun, most entertaining event for me in the blogosphere. May the joy continue until someone has their eye out.
